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		<title>Comment on GOD Saves Bad People by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Powerful video. I am reminded of Jesus telling the self-righteous that the spiritually sick need attention and healing, not the healthy in Mark 2:17. This was important to him. The sick weren&#039;t getting the attention they needed and this video reminds me of God&#039;s desire for the spiritually sick, the &quot;bad people.&quot; Yet it&#039;s ineteresting to note that the ones who questioned and opposed Jesus were also in desperate need of healing, but they instead ignored their illness (generally speaking).

The differance is that God calls sinners to repentance. I think this is what Universalism is missing. As mentioned, God wants to save us all, and we are all indeed bad. The problem is that the majority doesn&#039;t want to be saved, and God&#039;s not going to force salvation upon anybody. Seems fair by our human standards, right? The Universalists seem to appeal to people who want to fit God into their box, to define God&#039;s judgement by their own opinions. Note the sales pitch for the book, &quot;Do you wish God could be more loving and forgiving? Do you wish those who die in their sins or unbelief could have another chance at redemption?&quot;

God sent Jesus to give us the option to be saved, show us how to be saved, and make it possible to be saved. In his ministry, while many accepted his salvation, some also rejected it. Take the &quot;rich young ruler&quot; for example (Luke 18:18-29). The young man wanted eternal life (salvation), yet not enough to obey Jesus. Jesus then laments at how great an effort rich people must endure to enter God&#039;s kingdom. If Jesus were a Unitarian, I imagine he would have been cool with the man&#039;s decision. &quot;Naw, it&#039;s cool, man. I was kinda just hoping you&#039;d sell all you have and give to the poor. You didn&#039;t really have to. You&#039;ll be saved anyways. Thanks for the question! See you later!&quot;

In Acts 16:30, a &#039;bad&#039; person asks &quot;what must I do to be saved?&quot; I imagine if Paul and Silus were Unitarian they might say something like, &quot;DO?! Oh, don&#039;t worry, you don&#039;t have to DO anything! God&#039;s going to save you anyways!&quot; But they weren&#039;t Unitarians, they were Christians, who believed in what Christ says. They told the man to &quot;Believe on the lord Jesus, and you will be saved.&quot; Requirement #1: Be a Christian.

Our fellowship very recently did a study on the works of the flesh in Galations 5:19-21. Verse 21 says that if we practice these things, we can&#039;t get God&#039;s kingdom. In fact, in the end there are indeed people who will burn in the lake of fire (Rev. 21:8).

Most Christians tie the kingdom of God with salvation, whether you believe it to be a literal place or not. Yet even salvation from sin requires work on behalf of the one being saved. To be free from sin, we must be Jesus&#039; diciples (John 8:30-36).

God kicked man out of paradise because man chose disobedience (Gen. 3). The Universalist claims that he will seek out every last remnant of mankind and transform them to be acceptable to Him and welcome them back into eternal paradise. So why did He even give mankind the choice to disobey in the first place, and why put the people who choose to obey Him now in a world ruled by Satan and inhabited by evil (Food for thought, promises about eternity: Psalm 125:3, Rev. 21:27)?

God invites all the &#039;bad&#039; people to the wedding feast (Matt. 22: 1-10), but it&#039;s up to us to be dressed properly, otherwise we&#039;ll be rejected (v. 11-14). Sorry, Universatlists, some people just aren&#039;t fit for salvation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powerful video. I am reminded of Jesus telling the self-righteous that the spiritually sick need attention and healing, not the healthy in Mark 2:17. This was important to him. The sick weren&#8217;t getting the attention they needed and this video reminds me of God&#8217;s desire for the spiritually sick, the &#8220;bad people.&#8221; Yet it&#8217;s ineteresting to note that the ones who questioned and opposed Jesus were also in desperate need of healing, but they instead ignored their illness (generally speaking).</p>
<p>The differance is that God calls sinners to repentance. I think this is what Universalism is missing. As mentioned, God wants to save us all, and we are all indeed bad. The problem is that the majority doesn&#8217;t want to be saved, and God&#8217;s not going to force salvation upon anybody. Seems fair by our human standards, right? The Universalists seem to appeal to people who want to fit God into their box, to define God&#8217;s judgement by their own opinions. Note the sales pitch for the book, &#8220;Do you wish God could be more loving and forgiving? Do you wish those who die in their sins or unbelief could have another chance at redemption?&#8221;</p>
<p>God sent Jesus to give us the option to be saved, show us how to be saved, and make it possible to be saved. In his ministry, while many accepted his salvation, some also rejected it. Take the &#8220;rich young ruler&#8221; for example (Luke 18:18-29). The young man wanted eternal life (salvation), yet not enough to obey Jesus. Jesus then laments at how great an effort rich people must endure to enter God&#8217;s kingdom. If Jesus were a Unitarian, I imagine he would have been cool with the man&#8217;s decision. &#8220;Naw, it&#8217;s cool, man. I was kinda just hoping you&#8217;d sell all you have and give to the poor. You didn&#8217;t really have to. You&#8217;ll be saved anyways. Thanks for the question! See you later!&#8221;</p>
<p>In Acts 16:30, a &#8216;bad&#8217; person asks &#8220;what must I do to be saved?&#8221; I imagine if Paul and Silus were Unitarian they might say something like, &#8220;DO?! Oh, don&#8217;t worry, you don&#8217;t have to DO anything! God&#8217;s going to save you anyways!&#8221; But they weren&#8217;t Unitarians, they were Christians, who believed in what Christ says. They told the man to &#8220;Believe on the lord Jesus, and you will be saved.&#8221; Requirement #1: Be a Christian.</p>
<p>Our fellowship very recently did a study on the works of the flesh in Galations 5:19-21. Verse 21 says that if we practice these things, we can&#8217;t get God&#8217;s kingdom. In fact, in the end there are indeed people who will burn in the lake of fire (Rev. 21:8).</p>
<p>Most Christians tie the kingdom of God with salvation, whether you believe it to be a literal place or not. Yet even salvation from sin requires work on behalf of the one being saved. To be free from sin, we must be Jesus&#8217; diciples (John 8:30-36).</p>
<p>God kicked man out of paradise because man chose disobedience (Gen. 3). The Universalist claims that he will seek out every last remnant of mankind and transform them to be acceptable to Him and welcome them back into eternal paradise. So why did He even give mankind the choice to disobey in the first place, and why put the people who choose to obey Him now in a world ruled by Satan and inhabited by evil (Food for thought, promises about eternity: Psalm 125:3, Rev. 21:27)?</p>
<p>God invites all the &#8216;bad&#8217; people to the wedding feast (Matt. 22: 1-10), but it&#8217;s up to us to be dressed properly, otherwise we&#8217;ll be rejected (v. 11-14). Sorry, Universatlists, some people just aren&#8217;t fit for salvation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Evangelism Quotes by MUTESASIRA DAVID</title>
		<link>http://highergroundonline.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/evangelism-quotes/#comment-3268</link>
		<dc:creator>MUTESASIRA DAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are Amazing facts ,how i wish they could get to God&#039;s ministers allover the world
  they would be of great inspiration and the
  the work of our risen savior could soon be accomplished!!

  i request to be included on your mail list.
  Be blessed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are Amazing facts ,how i wish they could get to God&#8217;s ministers allover the world<br />
  they would be of great inspiration and the<br />
  the work of our risen savior could soon be accomplished!!</p>
<p>  i request to be included on your mail list.<br />
  Be blessed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bible is NOT the Word of God!? by Sentry Safe</title>
		<link>http://highergroundonline.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/the-bible-is-not-the-word-of-god/#comment-3267</link>
		<dc:creator>Sentry Safe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great article.  A lot of people end up worshiping the Bible rather than Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great article.  A lot of people end up worshiping the Bible rather than Christ.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Matthew 5:38-42 &#8211; Don&#8217;t Resist An Evil Person by Joel G</title>
		<link>http://highergroundonline.wordpress.com/2007/04/24/matthew-538-42-dont-resist-an-evil-person/#comment-3264</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(sorry had to add this one to subscribe to the comments)</description>
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		<title>Comment on Matthew 5:38-42 &#8211; Don&#8217;t Resist An Evil Person by Joel G</title>
		<link>http://highergroundonline.wordpress.com/2007/04/24/matthew-538-42-dont-resist-an-evil-person/#comment-3263</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I am not a pacifist, and I will point out in a moment that the &quot;turn the other cheek&quot; passage is removed from it&#039;s context in most applications today, but I must first affirm that Christ indeed calls us to &quot;love our enemies and pray for and bless those that persecute us.&quot; The Scripture also says, &quot;the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God.&quot; That one convicts me personally most of the time. It&#039;s actually easiest to be wicked when we perceive we are acting in righteous anger.

But the verse about &quot;turning the other cheek&quot;...

Most of the time reading that passage or hearing it preached we are taking it to mean an act of physical violence, such as somebody starting a fight.

First, just being real here - who slaps somebody to really attack them or to start a fight? Isn&#039;t that a wimp thing to do? If you really want to hurt a guy or attack them - you punch them in face, not slap them! Slapping is more a sign of disrespect or insult than an actual attack - and always has been.

So what is this passage actually talking about? Well I&#039;ll admit my research is second hand, but consider this: In the first century Jewish context the average Jew lived in a theocratic society - one in which the Judaic religion of the nation was intimately intertwined with the daily lives of it&#039;s people. You were not an Israelite without being a Jew. 

This is not like in America where we are considering ourselves a &quot;Christian nation&quot; so most people are Christian but many are not. This is NOTHING like first century Palestine. When we talk about Israel being a Jewish religion - that means it was the official religion of the country, and to not be a Jew meant you were not part of Israel. 

So enter the practice described by Jesus in Matthew 5:38-39 of being slapped on the cheek... 

If you were a Jew at this time and ever you did something horrible enough that the Jewish religious leaders (also very much political leaders of that culture) wanted to kick you out of society, how they would do it is when you were in the temple they would ceremonially kick you out with the symbol of a physical slap in the face as you were kicked out. The implications of that were you would likely become jobless, a social outcast, if you were unmarried it is very likely you would not have been able to get a Jewish wife from your culture, etc. (not unlike believers who convert to Christianity in Muslim societies throughout the world even today*).

So for Jesus to say this to his followers - they were realizing the implications of what he was referring to that had nothing to do with violence - it had to do with being outcast because of the Gospel. Again, something which our 21st century Western minds simply cannot even identify with in our cultural setting.

Jesus was warning his followers there is going to come a time when you are going to be kicked out of &quot;God&#039;s house&quot; in the name of God, because of the Gospel. And when that happens, you are not to defend your righteousness or to object, but to accept that form of rejection and suffering as the will of God and a testimony to those who have not yet accepted the Gospel, in hopes that they may eventually be won to it.

I&#039;m almost positive that it has nothing to do with actual violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I am not a pacifist, and I will point out in a moment that the &#8220;turn the other cheek&#8221; passage is removed from it&#8217;s context in most applications today, but I must first affirm that Christ indeed calls us to &#8220;love our enemies and pray for and bless those that persecute us.&#8221; The Scripture also says, &#8220;the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God.&#8221; That one convicts me personally most of the time. It&#8217;s actually easiest to be wicked when we perceive we are acting in righteous anger.</p>
<p>But the verse about &#8220;turning the other cheek&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Most of the time reading that passage or hearing it preached we are taking it to mean an act of physical violence, such as somebody starting a fight.</p>
<p>First, just being real here &#8211; who slaps somebody to really attack them or to start a fight? Isn&#8217;t that a wimp thing to do? If you really want to hurt a guy or attack them &#8211; you punch them in face, not slap them! Slapping is more a sign of disrespect or insult than an actual attack &#8211; and always has been.</p>
<p>So what is this passage actually talking about? Well I&#8217;ll admit my research is second hand, but consider this: In the first century Jewish context the average Jew lived in a theocratic society &#8211; one in which the Judaic religion of the nation was intimately intertwined with the daily lives of it&#8217;s people. You were not an Israelite without being a Jew. </p>
<p>This is not like in America where we are considering ourselves a &#8220;Christian nation&#8221; so most people are Christian but many are not. This is NOTHING like first century Palestine. When we talk about Israel being a Jewish religion &#8211; that means it was the official religion of the country, and to not be a Jew meant you were not part of Israel. </p>
<p>So enter the practice described by Jesus in Matthew 5:38-39 of being slapped on the cheek&#8230; </p>
<p>If you were a Jew at this time and ever you did something horrible enough that the Jewish religious leaders (also very much political leaders of that culture) wanted to kick you out of society, how they would do it is when you were in the temple they would ceremonially kick you out with the symbol of a physical slap in the face as you were kicked out. The implications of that were you would likely become jobless, a social outcast, if you were unmarried it is very likely you would not have been able to get a Jewish wife from your culture, etc. (not unlike believers who convert to Christianity in Muslim societies throughout the world even today*).</p>
<p>So for Jesus to say this to his followers &#8211; they were realizing the implications of what he was referring to that had nothing to do with violence &#8211; it had to do with being outcast because of the Gospel. Again, something which our 21st century Western minds simply cannot even identify with in our cultural setting.</p>
<p>Jesus was warning his followers there is going to come a time when you are going to be kicked out of &#8220;God&#8217;s house&#8221; in the name of God, because of the Gospel. And when that happens, you are not to defend your righteousness or to object, but to accept that form of rejection and suffering as the will of God and a testimony to those who have not yet accepted the Gospel, in hopes that they may eventually be won to it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m almost positive that it has nothing to do with actual violence.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How To Preach Without Converting Anyone by Kerusso</title>
		<link>http://highergroundonline.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/how-to-preach-without-converting-anyone/#comment-3262</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerusso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes!

These are the words of a person that is ashamed of the Gospel. The words of someone who simply doesn&#039;t believe that the truth pertaining to the kingdom of God is &quot;the power of God unto salvation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes!</p>
<p>These are the words of a person that is ashamed of the Gospel. The words of someone who simply doesn&#8217;t believe that the truth pertaining to the kingdom of God is &#8220;the power of God unto salvation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Evangelists Target Unreligious New England by Kathy Sorell</title>
		<link>http://highergroundonline.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/evangelists-target-unreligious-new-england/#comment-3261</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Sorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in the process of running a soup kitchen in my town every Saturday, as the Lord has truly been prompting me to do this.  I am amazed at the people who already do so much &amp; have so many burdens in their lives who are stepping up to help.  I am also saddened when I hear that some church groups dont want to get involved because their doctrine &amp; the doctrine of my church are different.  Just imagine what could be done if we all moved with the Heart of Christ!  No boundaries, no excuses...we truly ask Him to open our hearts &amp; then we move to do what He asks... 
I encourage you to not get discouraged!  Remember the work of those who have come before us!  Even if others are not acting we dont need to stop!  We need to ask the Lord to encourage us for whereever &amp; whatever He desires us to serve at &amp; we go!  There is so much to do and the time left is unknown.  God bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in the process of running a soup kitchen in my town every Saturday, as the Lord has truly been prompting me to do this.  I am amazed at the people who already do so much &amp; have so many burdens in their lives who are stepping up to help.  I am also saddened when I hear that some church groups dont want to get involved because their doctrine &amp; the doctrine of my church are different.  Just imagine what could be done if we all moved with the Heart of Christ!  No boundaries, no excuses&#8230;we truly ask Him to open our hearts &amp; then we move to do what He asks&#8230;<br />
I encourage you to not get discouraged!  Remember the work of those who have come before us!  Even if others are not acting we dont need to stop!  We need to ask the Lord to encourage us for whereever &amp; whatever He desires us to serve at &amp; we go!  There is so much to do and the time left is unknown.  God bless!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A More Beautiful You (Part 5) by Mom</title>
		<link>http://highergroundonline.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/a-more-beautiful-you-part-5/#comment-3260</link>
		<dc:creator>Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!  I am impressed and blessed with your thoughts about being a virtuous woman.  I think our society is very different from the time that this proverb was written. For example we dont need to make our clothes, but we still can be thrifty in our purchases and if necessary we can make them. I do see that we as women need to take care of our husbands, clothes, food and care for the house, these responsibilites have not changed. Whats changed is the way women look at their role as a wife. And I think the whole womens lib movement drastically effected that.  No more &#039;betty crocker&quot; wife, that was degrading for some women, not all of us, thank God.
I believe if we follow Proverbs 31 as best we can our husbands, children and society as a whole will be effected and hopefully we can convert some of these &quot;womens libbers&quot;!
YOU GO GIRL!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!  I am impressed and blessed with your thoughts about being a virtuous woman.  I think our society is very different from the time that this proverb was written. For example we dont need to make our clothes, but we still can be thrifty in our purchases and if necessary we can make them. I do see that we as women need to take care of our husbands, clothes, food and care for the house, these responsibilites have not changed. Whats changed is the way women look at their role as a wife. And I think the whole womens lib movement drastically effected that.  No more &#8216;betty crocker&#8221; wife, that was degrading for some women, not all of us, thank God.<br />
I believe if we follow Proverbs 31 as best we can our husbands, children and society as a whole will be effected and hopefully we can convert some of these &#8220;womens libbers&#8221;!<br />
YOU GO GIRL!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A More Beautiful You (Part I) by russ</title>
		<link>http://highergroundonline.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/a-more-beautiful-you-part-i/#comment-3258</link>
		<dc:creator>russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I don&#039;t think that link to the (&quot;don&#039;t give in to the pressure&quot;) sermon jam worked up there... lets try this...

listen:
http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/igy/dontgivein.ram
or
download:
http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/igy/Dont%20Give%20In%20To%20The%20Pressure%20-Michael%20Brown.mp3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I don&#8217;t think that link to the (&#8220;don&#8217;t give in to the pressure&#8221;) sermon jam worked up there&#8230; lets try this&#8230;</p>
<p>listen:<br />
<a href="http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/igy/dontgivein.ram" rel="nofollow">http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/igy/dontgivein.ram</a><br />
or<br />
download:<br />
<a href="http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/igy/Dont%20Give%20In%20To%20The%20Pressure%20-Michael%20Brown.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/igy/Dont%20Give%20In%20To%20The%20Pressure%20-Michael%20Brown.mp3</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on A More Beautiful You (Part I) by russ</title>
		<link>http://highergroundonline.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/a-more-beautiful-you-part-i/#comment-3257</link>
		<dc:creator>russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post...(although I&#039;m not going to lie, for some reason I&#039;m not feeling that song outside of it&#039;s lyrics:\
Many women are negatively influenced by what the world (&amp; worldly men) value in a woman rather than what GOD (&amp; Godly men) value in a woman. Only one is of true value in the realm of the Kingdom.

Either way, good post.
(Surprisingly) reminds me of a sermon jaaaaaam!
http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/igy/Dont Give In To The Pressure -Michael Brown.mp3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post&#8230;(although I&#8217;m not going to lie, for some reason I&#8217;m not feeling that song outside of it&#8217;s lyrics:\<br />
Many women are negatively influenced by what the world (&amp; worldly men) value in a woman rather than what GOD (&amp; Godly men) value in a woman. Only one is of true value in the realm of the Kingdom.</p>
<p>Either way, good post.<br />
(Surprisingly) reminds me of a sermon jaaaaaam!<br />
<a href="http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/igy/Dont" rel="nofollow">http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/igy/Dont</a> Give In To The Pressure -Michael Brown.mp3</p>
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